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plan. a problem we can come back quickly. , if theuestion is obama administration and many senate democrats have maintained that the implementation of standards for critical infrastructure sectors would compel better behavior, have you seen that in the electric industry with the establishment of these standards for singh -- forcing companies to take it more seriously? >> sure. if there are standards, people in the companies responsible, there are federal regulators you have to go to to be accountable for the standards. so there is that attention that is there. still haveted, you to go way beyond the standards in order to -- >> beyond the standards, one of the biggest threats to the security infrastructure is the human element, the insider threat. the errors of commission or omission. employee training is one of the most important things. you can have the best standards, the best technology, the best procedures, but if your people are not trained, your customers are not trained -- the financial industry sees its customers as part of the broader ecosystem. not only are we trying to
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